i created a discussion on how grief could be improved too. I judged the mode too harshly to begin with but this was because of the $hit map choice we had to play it on and thus i never touched it, then cell block grief came out and id thought id give it a go, and it was awesome, perfect map, but effort had gone into the map which is what i liked, they removed jug and cherry but then gave us phd and mule kick, they also left the blundergat, DM, Ray gun in the box which made me happy, i dont understand why the ray gun was removed from town/farm, put me off it aswell tbh. Borough also left a similiar trate to cell block and i enjoy playing that too, i would like more griefing tactics though, because we have knifing which was fun until it was nerfed which was pathetic as it was fine, and a weak meat powerup now and then, its common in cell block, but ive gone through games in borough where it didnt even show up, very rare, i understand we cant kill them but something to give each team an edge, like dynamic map elements to down the other team, id like maps made exclusively for grief rather than cut out maps, cut out maps arent designed with grief in mind, maps should be made to work with a specific mode, perhaps perks only in grief or weapons only in grief to make it more appealing, grief can become awesome but only if 3arc put effort in it, something which they havent done. I liked the traps in grief, but i got irritated by them by noobs using the traps to down you as their too $hit themselves to try and down you themselves, i played a game of grief not on my own account, on another account where it had a skull, but my own rank is skull with dagger, on the opposite team their was 2 party friends who had shotguns, they werent trying to kill zombies they were analysing our team to see who was good, i hadnt gone down at all but my teammate had so they picked me and were knifing me constantly to try and slow me and down and push me into the zombies and they were looking for me all the time, cause i was having to go prone to revive teammates, one of them was doing the trick of dolphin diving on us prone to get us both down, but in the end it was them who made the vital mistake and we won
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